In the first parts of our interview with coach and sports scientist Olav Aleksander Bu, weโve tracked his work with Norwayโs elite triathletes which last year included Olympic gold, a 70.3 World Championship and some staggering Ironman debuts.
Those achievements attracted the attention of none other than the New York Times earlier this year and this quote from Bu rounded off the article:
โIt will almost be like taking candy from kids,โ he said in reference to the impact the Norwegians could potentially have at Ironman distance.
Asking him about that now brings an interesting response, firstly that it was said โin a humourous wayโ and absolutely wasnโt intended to be disrespectful to the standard-bearers of the sport.
โOf course, there are some really good Ironman athletes. Jan [Frodeno], for example, he has been in a league of his own. He has an extremely smart coach, Dan Lorang, who is a very close friend of mine, too.
โHe also has a really good understanding what it requires to perform at a higher level. What do you need to work on and how do you work on all these kinds of things?
โI could easily say, Jan is racing in a place where for him itโs like taking candy from kids, too.
โSo it was more, letโs say a little bit more like going in knowing what we are doing, having such control over our own performances.
โThere is a purpose behind everything. We donโt do things just for fun because other people do it, because we donโt care very much about what other people do.
โWe are more obsessed over how can we really just advance our program all the time. How can we always be faster?

โOf course, I understand itโs easy to portray it as being a little bit cocky but I know that doesnโt reflect how we see things.โ
The bigger picture
What should potentially concern rivals far more is the revelation from Bu, when we delve into his work more deeply, that these performances have been achieved when the bigger picture has been a focus on the Olympics.
โI think that already in the half-Ironman world, we have shown quite superior performance over the last Olympic cycle.
โAnd we really didnโt do too much specialisation for that because we had built some very big engines in the guys.
โWe didnโt want to do much more because we couldnโt compromise the performance leading into the Tokyo Olympics, which was the primary target.
โSo we had to be a little bit careful with this. And also one of the things is that I think because we do so many measurements both in field and in the laboratory, we also see always the implication of what is really happening.โ
But 2022 will momentarily see a focus on full-distance Ironman, especially for Kristian Blummenfelt, who is planning to do both World Championships, at St George in May and then Kona in October.
The aim for Blummenfelt โ before Covid intervened and it was postponed to 2022 โ was to win at Kona last October.
Learning process
And Bu is fully aware of the scale of that ambition, again referencing his good friend Lorang, who guided first Jan Frodeno and then Anne Haug to Kona glory, all the way from Olympic-distance.
I suggested to Olav that that was around a three-year progression for each of them.
โKristian and I had a little joke about that when the focus shifted after the Olympics in late July. Basically Kristian, he was clear, he said โI want to win Kona in Octoberโ.
โSo I said to Kristian that, well, you are asking me to do the same for you in three months, which took three years for Jan and Dan โ no pressure!โ
But Bu is anything but flippant when addressing the challenges ahead.
โOf course the guys arenโt just going into Ironman racing to participate, they want to win.
โSo one of the things that became very important to me was to say, okay, but that means also we are going into a new stage where we need to learn a lot.
โWe donโt know what Ironman racing necessarily requires and so on.โ
Finer margins
And while mindful of the task ahead, Bu is in no doubt which he currently feels is harder to win between the Olympics and Kona.

โI would say that we have to remember that in Olympic racing we are closer to peak human performance than what we have seen in Ironman at the moment.
โAnd thatโs why itโs also so fun to do Olympic racing, because the field is so even, itโs so hard fighting that itโs a different level of excitement.
โYou really know that you have to be your best. You have to work the best. The staff have to be the best all the time to try to find those small margins to win.
โI would say that between 60-80% of the research that Iโm continuing to do now with the guys is actually oriented towards Paris 2024.
โOlympic racing really challenges my mind to think about where can we find advantages, how can we do things, how do we need to prioritise things better, even while in Ironman.
โWe might not be there yet in Ironman racing but it could happen in St George or Kona this year, and we will really have to fight for the podium.โ
When athletes or teams take things to a new level, their rivals tend to respond and close the gap and thatโs something Bu agrees with.
โI hope we can motivate and bring that to the half Ironman and Ironman circuit too. I think that will bring another level to the excitement around the racing too. Absolutely. That would be fantastic.โ
Marginal gains
There are two other points from The New York Times that I wanted to discuss with Bu โ and heโs crystal clear on both.
The first is something he referenced himself in that insightful Pho3nix Cozumel documentary: โThe problem is, when you go this fast, the first thing you see on the forums is these doping allegations because people think that the Ironman people are the holy people of triathlon.
โThey donโt understand thereโs a new era coming on board now. I think as soon as people start to realise, it will only be a matter of time of course before people try to bridge the gap and they will also start to go faster.โ
He goes further when I speak to him: โMaybe I should be a little bit careful by saying this. But to be honest, when people believe that theyโre putting themselves in a position where they are not looking for performance anymore, they are already behind.โ
The New York Times added: โThere is another explanation for Blummenfeltโs victories in Tokyo and Mexico: data. If the Oakland Aโs were a Trojan horse for analytics in baseball and other ball sports, Norwayโs national team is a triathlon leader in taking the โMoneyballโ approach.
I worked with Team Sky (now Team Ineos) for the first three years of their existence and wondered whether he saw parallels with what they did in cycling โ setting what looked like hugely ambitious targets before delivering in style with multiple Tour de France victories.
โAbsolutely. Using that exact example โ itโs marginal gains. But people sometimes think itโs not very sexy to try to make that 1% increase because you think 1% is costing you too much. Is it really worth it?
โSome say, no, itโs hard to quantify and already there your mindset is at default or you are stagnating.
โBut I think sometimes somebody needs to come in and just demonstrate performance like Team Sky did, where youโre racing suddenly at a completely different level.
โAnd I think that for people that are really smart, itโs not very difficult.
โWhat people must understand is that 1% here, 1% there, it all adds up.
โItโs a culture, but all those percentages together is what makes the difference in this.
โSo when Iโm sitting down with Kristian and Gustav, itโs not about who do we think we are fighting against in St George, who do we think we are fighting against in Kona or Sub7.
โItโs more about, okay, if we just take everything we know, how humanely fast do we think itโs possible to swim, bike and run.โ
Olav was at pains to point out that all this has only been possible because of an incredible network of relationships with tech companies across the globe that are supporting Norwayโs team and also working with them as a testing resource. Itโs mutually beneficial, and weโll find out more in the next part of the interview.
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